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Marilyn de Queiroz
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posted October 17, 2002 07:30 PM      Profile for Marilyn de Queiroz   Author's Homepage   Email Marilyn de Queiroz   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What brought you to Javaranch originally.

I'll start.

I came because I heard Paul speak at a Java Users Group meeting where he, of course, mentioned Javaranch. He said there was a Java course there. I came, saw the html pages, and sent in my first attempt at the first assignment. Surprise, surprise! He actually gave me suggestions on how to improve my code! At that time it was a requirement to post in the forum in order to continue in the course. So I found the Moose Saloon. And that's how I got started here.

Now it's your turn.

[ October 17, 2002: Message edited by: Marilyn de Queiroz ]


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John Wetherbie
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posted October 17, 2002 07:50 PM      Profile for John Wetherbie   Email John Wetherbie   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Unfortunately, I can't quite remember what brought me here. I think I was looking for Java resources/certification help on the web and one of the search results was JavaRanch. However I got here I really liked what I found and have been here since.

Not quite as inspiring as Marilyn's story...

OK, who's next?

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Thomas Paul
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Member # 970

posted October 17, 2002 07:51 PM      Profile for Thomas Paul   Author's Homepage   Email Thomas Paul   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have absolutely no memory of how I found the place. I was thinking that maybe I had a question and was looking for answers. I had a different ID when I started (it was before the naming standard) so Ilooked at my earliest posts but they are answers to questions. Maybe Paul allowed anonymous posts back then?

Once I found the place I liked the community atmosphere. I remember being completely surprised when I was asked to be a bartender. (Paul probably still regrets that decision.)

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Mark Herschberg
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posted October 17, 2002 08:35 PM      Profile for Mark Herschberg   Author's Homepage   Email Mark Herschberg   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think I first read about JavaRanch in a book, but I can't remember which one. So I check out the site and liked it.

Interesting story, which some of you might have heard before...

I started hanging around JavaRanch not because I needed questions answered but because I could answer some. I remember being a newbie in other fields and asking lots of questions and getting few replies. I decided that I had some karmic debt for the few replies I had received in my younger days, so I started posting answers. Ultimately this led to me becoming a bartender. My postings and/or my bartender status got me noticed by HungryMinds who asked me to do a book proposal review. They wanted me to sign an NDA, but I was hesitant. So I contacted Peter Haggar, who I hadn't really interacted with, except through JavaRanch. He offered to get me in touch with Addison-Wesley to do book reviews for them. So then at the following JavaRanch, I decided to approach other publishers to see if I could work for them. While talking to SAMS, the editor suggested I write a book for them. I said no to the book he wanted me to write (although a recent google search found that someone thought I had written said book), but it got me thinking about writing book, generally; and now here I am. (And pulling in many JavaRanch moderators as reviewers.)

The moral of the story: JavaRanch made me quit my job :-)


--Mark


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Jessica Sant
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posted October 17, 2002 08:42 PM      Profile for Jessica Sant   Author's Homepage   Email Jessica Sant   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was working on a bug in our app server... trying to figure out the appropriate behavior from a fuzzy part of the spec. I found a close answer posted at the serverside.com -- that actually referred to a better answer posted here at the JavaRanch. I really liked the community that I saw... and like Mark said, felt inclined to answer questions that I could. Which in turn got me noticed and now I have access to the secretive MO forum... JavaRanch hasn't caused me to quit my job, however, since I joined HP decided to quit the AppServer business... maybe the JR caused that? Maybe 'cause there was never an HP-AS forum.... ok I think I'm rambling now....
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Michael Matola
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posted October 17, 2002 08:48 PM      Profile for Michael Matola   Email Michael Matola   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
For me it was the Cattle Drive.

Stumbled across the Ranch while web surfing. (Maybe followed a link from a post in Usenet's comp.lang.programming.java?) Found the prospect of doing the assignments intriguing, but it was way too public an experience for me.

Few months later stumbled over the Cattle Drive again and thought hey, I remember this. Got over my previous hangups and signed on.

Michael Matola
"Absolutely no regrets" -- M.L. Ciccone


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Mark Spritzler
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posted October 17, 2002 08:51 PM      Profile for Mark Spritzler   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think I found out about Javaranch when I was searching for mock exams for the SCJP. I had Bill's book, but I don't think he mentioned it in there.

Mark

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David O'Meara
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posted October 17, 2002 10:01 PM      Profile for David O'Meara   Email David O'Meara   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was doing a WebLogic Admin course and it was mentioned by the lecturer as a useful resource.

I was initially impressed with the quality of help provided by Cindy (the earliest person I can remember going 'wow' at)

I was hooked from the beginning.

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Junilu Lacar
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posted October 18, 2002 03:02 AM      Profile for Junilu Lacar   Author's Homepage   Email Junilu Lacar   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I Googled into it while looking for the RHE errata. Unfortunately, this was after I had taken my SCJP and gotten less than I would have had I come across JavaRanch earlier. And thanks to JavaRanch, I got much better results on the SCJP 1.4 beta.

After my first week of lurking in Programmer's Cert, OO Patterns UML, and XP, I was hooked. I dabbled in MD for a week or so but I guess that kind of banter just isn't for me.

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Simon Brown
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posted October 18, 2002 04:52 AM      Profile for Simon Brown   Author's Homepage   Email Simon Brown   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I stumbled across JavaRanch after my CJP 1.1, but before the other certs. I then didn't visit for a while early and came back to a whole load of really great forums where I started learning and helping others. This explains my low member number and low post count when compared to everybody else. Been coming back ever since, although I will admit that I rarely look at anything outside of the saloon.

Simon


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Dave Vick
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posted October 18, 2002 06:15 AM      Profile for Dave Vick   Email Dave Vick   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I came looking for certification information and stayed for the bar-b-que.

Actually I found out that the best way to learn was to answer questions as opposed to asking them. Of course after I answered a bunch I got asked to be a moderator and now you're all stuck with me.


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Kyle Brown
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posted October 18, 2002 06:16 AM      Profile for Kyle Brown   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Was invited as an author by Carl through my publicist at A-W. Did the one-week author thing and never left.

Kyle

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See my homepage at http://members.aol.com/kgb1001001 for other WebSphere information.


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Marcus Green
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posted October 18, 2002 06:36 AM      Profile for Marcus Green   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In a land far away and long ago when my website got more page requests than JavaRanch I had a boasting contest with Paul Wheaton (or willy waving contest as Sarah amusingly calls it).

I told about how I used to run bulletin board with 96K modems and Opus, was Fido node and thought 640K or ram was as much as anyone could want.
Paul told me how he was assistant to Alexander Graham Bell and was the chap who Alex called to "come here at once I have spilt ketchup on my pants" which was the first phone call. I paraphrase slightly but I decided I should be I should start sucking up to Mr Wheaton and developed a policy of attempting to undermine JavaRanch through random acts of sensless kindness.


(does any of this make sense?)


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Matthew Phillips
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posted October 18, 2002 06:40 AM      Profile for Matthew Phillips   Email Matthew Phillips   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I found it while looking for certification resources. I generally don't like to post in online forums, but when I found the cattle drive I was more than willing to post for the benefits of nitpicking. From that point the community sucked me in.

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Cindy Glass
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posted October 18, 2002 06:43 AM      Profile for Cindy Glass   Author's Homepage   Email Cindy Glass   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had just gotten my certification, and was sort of mentoring another person through their studies. She came back to me laughing about this game that she found on the internet.

I had a great time playing that game for a while, then looked around and saw the campfire stories .

It was actually several weeks before I even NOTICED the forums. I lurked for a while - but I am basically not a person to keep quiet very long .

I was not actually coding in java at the time, and I found that answering questions was a way to make sure that I did not lose as much of my knowledge base as I would have.

I was SO startled when I got an invitation to be a bartender!! I had to confess that I had no real world experience - but they said that's OK.

Somehow JavaRanch just insinuated itself into my daily routine since then. Since I seem to be addicted you just have to put up with me .

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Frank Carver
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posted October 18, 2002 06:46 AM      Profile for Frank Carver   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Carver   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OK, my turn.

Many years ago I used to regularly trawl the net for anything of interest about the then-still-new Java. Some time after I got my SCJP in Feb 1998, I found the Electric Porkchop, still with relatively few posts, and decided to join in. A while later (and I'm not sure whether it was before or after the name change to "JavaRanch") Paul decided he needed a helping hand, and based on some of my forum answers (in particular one about "hungarian notation", I recall), chose me as the first additional administrator.

I've been active pretty much all the time, all though my post count has slowed down to a handful a week for a few months here and there. All this explains my low user number and relatively high post count.

I can't claim that Java Ranch lost me my job, although I have several times been told that employers did not want to see the Ranch on my screen at work


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Mike Curwen
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posted October 18, 2002 08:07 AM      Profile for Mike Curwen   Email Mike Curwen   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I first started my current job, I had one course in Java from college, and the job is a Sun/Solaris shop. So I needed some java help.

I asked around, and a colleague gave me a bunch of links, one of which was javaranch.

In the early days of my being here, I spent most of my time in Swing/AWT and JIG-Beginner. No one starts learning java without doing some time in UI purgatory using Layout managers. Had lots of fun answering questions in that forum, because I'd think "I don't know the answer to that", and I'd use the question as if it were homework. I'd code the solution and then post either hints or example code, depending on the situation.

I guess my helpful nature got noticed, and I was asked to be a bartender, which was a pleasant surprise.

Now that I'm in server-side Java, I've hardly ever been back to Swing/AWT, but spend most time in Servlets and Apache/Tomcat. And oh yes, SunONE, the forum I moderate.. sort of. (it mostly takes care of itself)

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Randall Twede
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posted October 18, 2002 09:12 AM      Profile for Randall Twede   Author's Homepage   Email Randall Twede   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
when i decided to learn java, i first spent some time in Sun's forums. but then i found a link somewhere to javaranch, had some fun with the roundup, and found i liked the forums better than the ones at Sun's site.

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Ajith Kallambella
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posted October 18, 2002 10:15 AM      Profile for Ajith Kallambella   Author's Homepage   Email Ajith Kallambella   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My SCJP certification. I was googling around for certification resources and stumbled upon JavaRanch. The name attracted me at first and made me click on the link.

Before I knew it, I got addicted. I used lurked around for a while, and then started actively participating. In a couple of months Paul invited me to become a bartender. Maha, Tony and Jim were gods in the SCJP forum and my peers included Map, Cindy, Satya(aka Madhav), Angela and Herbert. I still have nostalgic memories of those days, and when I have time, I browse throuh some of my ancient SCJP posts...

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SCJP2, SCWCD, IBM-XML Dev, SCEA.
Co-author of Java 2 Certification Passport


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Nathan Pruett
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posted October 18, 2002 11:18 AM      Profile for Nathan Pruett   Email Nathan Pruett   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think I was searching for a place to find answers to Java questions when I took my first Java class in college... probably in the Summer of 1999. JavaRanch was the best place to find info, and it was a lot more friendly feeling than the Sun forums. Later, in 2000, I started using the site more because of "on-the-job" questions, and because I got intrested in being Java certified... I think that's when I really started answering questions in the forums, too.

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Paul Wheaton
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posted October 18, 2002 12:08 PM      Profile for Paul Wheaton   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Wheaton      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was studying for the SCJP and followed a link for a mock exam. I played the cow game over and over. I sent e-mail to the webmooster and said that it was the coolest site on Java. Even cooler than mine.

Marcus, maybe we should start a thread in MD to see if anybody knows what a BBS is! I remember for the longest time your site always had triple the traffic of mine. Thanks for helping me get things started!

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Michael Finney
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posted October 18, 2002 01:06 PM      Profile for Michael Finney   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Finney   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was involved in the Electric Porkchop and did the Cattle Game to study for SCJP.

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Sun Certified Developer for the Java 2 Platform
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Co-founder of PPJDG - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ppjdg/


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Dirk Schreckmann
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posted October 18, 2002 11:02 PM      Profile for Dirk Schreckmann   Email Dirk Schreckmann   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Back in December I decided that I wanted to learn how to program, and so signed up for a programming course to begin in January at the local University. I signed up for the second level course - with no idea how to program.

The course was to be taught in Java, so I jumped on Google to find out how to learn to program in Java. JavaRanch popped up and I hit the Saloon to ask questions.

A few months later I aced the course and became the subject of a joke that allowed me to sneak in the back door of the Saloon and play Bartender.

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http://test.javaranch.com/wiki


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Jim Yingst
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posted October 19, 2002 12:04 AM      Profile for Jim Yingst   Author's Homepage   Email Jim Yingst   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[emerging several days of hiking and driving in the Sierras...]

Lessee... back in late 1999 I was interested in certification, and found two sites in particular to be of interest: http://www.marcusgreen.co.uk/ (I think that was it - it became http://www.jchq.net/) and http://www.javacert.com/ - which once had a thriving Java discussion area. Tony Alicea and I were regulars at both sites. I vaguely recall Tony pointing out a site called electricporkchop, which seemed to have a few interesting discussions as well - but not enough to draw me away from the other two. I also had seen javaranch, which was cool at the time, but had no discussion groups - which is where I did most of my learning. So I (and Tony) pretty much concentrated on Marcus and jcert.

Over time, however, it became apparent that the owner of http://www.javacert.com/ was no longer taking an active role in maintaining the site. Things were starting to break down, bit by bit. Then I got an e-mail out of the blue from some guy named Paul Wheaton, who noted the decaying state of jcert and said that electricporkchop had merged with javaranch, and he had just created a new Programmer Certification forum which needed a moderator - was I interested? I'd never posted at javaranch or electricporkchop - Paul just found me through my contributions elsewhere. I was hesitant at first, wanting to check the place out a bit more before making any commitment. I suggested Paul should also contact Tony, if he hadn't already. (I always assumed he had probably already done so, since Tony was just as active as I was in the same forums - but I don't know if that's the case.)

So, a couple days later, I'd been enjoying the new javaranch, and e-mailed Paul to say I'd accept. Paul, slightly embarrassed, informed me that Tony had just accepted that same position - but, hmmm, come to think of it, the forum software did seem to allow up to four moderators for a single forum, so maybe we could work something out. Thus, the first shared moderatorship of a forum, for the new Programmer Certification forum. Tony and I both announced at jcert that we'd be leaving jcert for javaranch, since it had an owner actively looking to keep it alive. Of course we both continued at Marcus's site, since that was quite active as well, and Marcus was just too cool to abandon. But over time javaranch's Programmer Cert just got bigger and bigger, and moderation duties there gradually drew us away from Marcus's site. (fortunately folks like Bill Brogden and later Rosanne Zhang were also active at Marcus's site).

Also, it seems that Maha Anna had also been a (silent) reader of jcert, who followed Tony and me to javaranch. You can see that her registration date is actually just one day after Tony and me. She kept quiet though for about a month - then she just sort of appeared out of the blue (from my perspective anyway) and started dispensing insight and wisdom the likes of which Tony and I only dreamed of. So eventually we were able to move on to discover the other forums of javaranch, and leave Programmer Cert in extremely capable hands.

[ October 19, 2002: Message edited by: Jim Yingst ]

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Pauline McNamara
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posted October 19, 2002 11:09 AM      Profile for Pauline McNamara   Email Pauline McNamara      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think my first post was a question about one of the exercises in Thinking in Java. I was attempting to teach myself programming with no IT background, so little that I didn't even realize that that book was not intended for me.

Trying to learn from books has two pitfalls: not many have exercises with answers, and if they do, you never really find out *why* the right answer is right.

Somehow I stumbled onto the Cattle Drive and signed up. Feedback for free?!?! Haven't looked back since. (Haven't finished the Drive either... )

Definitely hooked.

PS When I saw the thing about no cows being harmed in the making of the roundup game, I thought, "Yeah. This is my kind of goofy place."

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Roseanne Zhang
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posted October 19, 2002 02:12 PM      Profile for Roseanne Zhang   Author's Homepage   Email Roseanne Zhang      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was followed a link from Colorado Java User Group.

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Paul Wheaton
trailboss
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posted October 22, 2002 03:08 PM      Profile for Paul Wheaton   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Wheaton      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jim, I contacted you and Tony at the same time. I figured one or both of you would turn it down. I didn't think you would both go for it.

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Rob Ross
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posted October 22, 2002 07:38 PM      Profile for Rob Ross   Email Rob Ross   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had decided to get my SCJP cert in October of last year. I had started searching google for sample tests, and found many web sites devoted to java and even SCJP. JavaRanch was one of many that came up in my google search. I surfed around for a while, visted the Rules Roundup and Campfire Stories, then found the message boards. I was impressed with the traffic and the immediate, well-though out responses to my questions. I quickly realized this was the "in" place to be for studying for the SCJP.

I spent a lot of time answering questions in the SCJP forum, because answering questions is the best way to learn things! And I guess some of you thought I was helpful enough to be magically turned into a frog, but I think your frog-wand was broken that day, so I ended up a bartender. And the rest is history!

Actually, I keep meaning to start studying for the Web developer java cert,and one of these days I will, and I'll probably start spending a lot more time answering questions in that forum as well.

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SCJP 1.4


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Johannes de Jong
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posted October 23, 2002 12:39 AM      Profile for Johannes de Jong   Email Johannes de Jong   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was busy with my yearly career plan. Java seemed a great thing to learn. In my planning I had to work out a "stappenplan" i.e.. steps to get to the level of "senior" Java programmer.

Well certification was one of the steps. Google lead me to Marcus's site and from him to the JR.

From there I ended up doing the Cattle Drive.

Java never became part of my "career" and my interest in Java dwindled.

But though I've tried to leave the JR a few times before, I can't seem to get this place out of my blood.

I've made friends here and it's hard to leave friends.

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Johannes likes to write code. He has written lots of it. Not much Haiku, though.

Chris Hargrove - The Gas Powered Team


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Michael Matola
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posted October 23, 2002 06:18 AM      Profile for Michael Matola   Email Michael Matola   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Johannes de Jong:
I had to work out a "stappenplan"

Hey, aren't those those things you fold over and punch in the machine to ride the trams in Amsterdam?


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Angela Poynton
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posted October 23, 2002 06:32 AM      Profile for Angela Poynton   Author's Homepage   Email Angela Poynton   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had just finished my degree in Film and Video and having decided the "industry" wasn't for me after all managed to swing a place in a Graduate Trainee Scheme run by BA, I had been here three months doing intensive courses in C, PL/SQL and Pro*C when I was given my first work assignment .. in the e-commerce development dept (still there to this day). Of course, they didn't use C, they used Java so I had to start al over again!
My mentor was browsing and found the Rules Round-Up and got me playing that to help me learn. Then we found the Cattle Drive ... then I found the forums. I fell in love with the place, and got very lucky when I volunteered to be a bartender when there was a shortage and not many volunteers, I think I was promoted from Greenhorn to RanchHand to Batender in a matter of days!!
A few months later I volunteered to take over the Bunkhouse, re-design it, create a process where more people could review books ... and well the rest is history!!
Now in semi-retirement .. .still pop my head round the door most days but currently very busy at work, with my eddie-izzard.com site, moderating a couple of other groups I belong to and finding some kind of time for something resembling a LIFE

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Johannes de Jong
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posted October 23, 2002 06:51 AM      Profile for Johannes de Jong   Email Johannes de Jong   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Matola:

Hey, aren't those those things you fold over and punch in the machine to ride the trams in Amsterdam?



Nope thats the strippenkaart. Good try though

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Johannes likes to write code. He has written lots of it. Not much Haiku, though.

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George Brown
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posted October 23, 2002 07:12 AM      Profile for George Brown   Author's Homepage   Email George Brown   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If memory serves I was in a java course run by The Object People as part of a 3 month Java Immersion course, I think it was a Servlets and JSPs course, and the tutor, an SCJP and all-round top bloke by the name of Dave Parsons, pulled up this page, a strange site called JavaRanch.com, and proceeded to play through the Rules Roundup with two of us.

That's what hooked me...


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Peter den Haan
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posted October 25, 2002 08:53 AM      Profile for Peter den Haan   Author's Homepage   Email Peter den Haan   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Not sure anymore. I think it was a Google search for some Java thing I wanted to find out. I liked the atmosphere, had gotten through SCJD not too long before and thought, heck, I wish I'd found this earlier.

So I started answering questions

- Peter


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Marilyn de Queiroz
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posted August 30, 2003 07:14 PM      Profile for Marilyn de Queiroz   Author's Homepage   Email Marilyn de Queiroz   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Would any of you new bartenders care to comment on this thread?
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Andrew Monkhouse
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posted August 30, 2003 08:17 PM      Profile for Andrew Monkhouse   Author's Homepage   Email Andrew Monkhouse   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's Kathy and Bert's fault!!!

I decided to quit work and concentrate on learning Java properly this year (having been using a very small subset of it for the last few years), and bought two books to help with SCJP - one of which was Kathy & Bert's. In it they mentioned JavaRanch, (as well as being mentioned by several other books I was reading and several sites I was going to), and I liked K & B's book (even if it sometimes annoyed me ) so I figured that any site they recommended might be worth a look so I started coming here.

Unfortunately I got my SCJP before I got my ADSL connection, so it wasnt until I started SCJD that I got really involved. And I seem to have stuck in that forum, with occassional forays into Linux and MD.

Regards, Andrew

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Little known fact about Middle Earth: The Hobbits had a very sophisticated computer network! It was a Tolkien Ring...


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Ernest Friedman-Hill
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posted August 30, 2003 08:49 PM      Profile for Ernest Friedman-Hill   Author's Homepage   Email Ernest Friedman-Hill   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm a pretty recent convert -- earlier this summer, actually. Occasionally in the past I'd get a link to a campfire story after a google search, but I had never paid much attention. But then I came to the forums when Manning's publicist signed me up to do a book promotion. I'm not sure what it was, but I was hooked the first day. I've been spending way too much time here every day, ever since, and I suspect this will go on for a long, long time. JavaRanch is like crack! [beerchug] (no crack pipe icon, have to make do.)

Seriously, I used to teach Java in lecture courses for Berkeley Extension and U.C. San Diego Extension, then as a consultant around the Bay Area, and then online; I really enjoyed helping people to learn to program. I taught from 1995 to 2001, and by the end I counted something like 3000 students in total. After my daughter got to a certain age (2.5 or so), I just didn't have time anymore, so i sadly resigned my various academic posts.

Java Ranch has the same kind of "feel" I used to try to have in the classes I taught: "serious fun" I think you'd call it. The "be nice" rule and the naming policy are sheer genius. And of course the generous ego-stroking policy for authors hasn't hurt. Java Ranch is great fun!

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Jess in Action, my new book about the rule engine for Real Programmers!


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Lasse Koskela
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posted August 31, 2003 01:49 AM      Profile for Lasse Koskela   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I registered on January 2002 but had been browsing the certification forums long before that while preparing for SCJP. Most probably, at some point I felt I could be of help and decided to post--which required registration.

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Lasse Koskela, SCJP, SCBCD
I am paranoid; but am I paranoid enough?


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Jose Botella
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posted August 31, 2003 06:28 AM      Profile for Jose Botella   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I decide to learn programming and Java was exciting, new and powerful at that time. Also I dislike M$ technologies.
The first time I saw the Ranch I did not realize there was real Java content in it I got not conscious the site was serious . Maybe it was the ranch-ness appearance. The second time I tried, due to some link in the Internet, the content of the forums were too difficult for me [argh] thus I retreat to study two books: Thinking in Java and Inside The Java 2 Virtual Machine. Then the posts began to make sense

I got caught by the quality of the responses, the usefulnnes of trying to answer others posts: enlightment and not to forgetting the already learnt stuff; and by the possibility of helping others and the spreading of the Java language. [thought]against the empire of evil[/thought]

I am aware I am not a programmer yet. Actually I am in the process of writting Java programs to get background for the SCJD exam.


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