Author Topic:   Good news ... :) Maha became SCJP today.
maha anna
bartender
posted May 06, 2000 02:57 PM             
Hello everybody,

Maha cleared the Real Exam SCJP2 with 93%.
I really owe a lot of this credit to you all .
My sincere thanks to Jim,Tony,and Paul.
I thought I answered all the qstns correctly.
I think may be I lost 3 qstns due to carelessnes.
Otherwise the qstns are clearly worded. I got lots and lots
of MULTIPLE choice qstns, which took me more time to check
each and every answer. May be in that I missed some. Anyway I am not too thrilled or too sad about this 93%. I finished the exam , the first round of answering in 1:15 min. The remaining 45 min I revised. The qstns were not too particular about remembering the syntax of methods etc. It tests the core concepts. Once again thank you all. I was preparing for the exam seriously this week. This was the reason for my reduced participation here . . Out of 59 qstns may be 6-7 written ans. type/ around 30 were MULTIPLE CHOICE and the remaining single answer type. So approcimatelt , you got to check (30*5) extra answers to check in the multiple choices. May be I was careless in that.

Once again I really..really thank you ALL for all your support.

regds
maha anna

Suma Narayan
ranch hand
posted May 06, 2000 03:02 PM         
Congratulations Maha. That's a great score.

sree
ranch hand
posted May 06, 2000 04:00 PM             
Congratulations!!!! Maha.

psethura
ranch hand
posted May 06, 2000 04:04 PM         
Was there any questions on applet? paint? update and java.net?

maha anna
bartender
posted May 06, 2000 04:09 PM             
No. I didn't get any from Applet/net. But paint/update are IN THE objectives. YOu may get from them. There were no deprecated methods asked. I didn't get any syntax error qstns. But if you get 1 you try to answer the qstn presuming something than leaving the qstn blank.

regds
maha anna

satya5
ranch hand
posted May 06, 2000 08:49 PM             

Congrats Maha. Good job.

Regds.

- satya

Eric Barnhill
bartender
posted May 06, 2000 09:13 PM             
Congratulations fearless leader . Be sure to keep us posted on what's next for you.

Eric

satya5
ranch hand
posted May 06, 2000 09:41 PM             

Whats' next ????

Common! I expect Maha to stay tuned and post those
messages...we all have a dream you know
I am sure Maha doesn't mind me saying this.
What? being selfish .... may be!
Just kidding

- satya

Nalini Mistry
ranch hand
posted May 07, 2000 04:33 AM             
Way to go MA!!!

Mani
ranch hand
posted May 07, 2000 09:26 AM             
Congrats Maha,

We would like to know how you prepared for the exam.What books you read, and list of mock exams you took before the real one and how much you scored in that etc.. .I think this may help those who haven't certified yet. One more thing are you working some were??

Regards

Mani

Ali
unregistered
posted May 07, 2000 10:59 AM           
Many Congratulations Maha.

raghavendra
greenhorn
posted May 07, 2000 12:46 PM             
congrats maha,
i thought u were an SCJP before itself.
bye
raghavendra

Cedric Wynn
greenhorn
posted May 07, 2000 02:59 PM             
Congrats on a well done job!

Cedric

[This message has been edited by Cedric Wynn (edited May 07, 2000).]

sim
unregistered
posted May 07, 2000 07:51 PM           
Congratulations !!!
This site is really good and is helping me to clear my doubts.Thanks
Sim

Ashish Thakur
greenhorn
posted May 08, 2000 12:23 AM             
Mahaanna Good going

Infact it was a foregone conclusion that u would be a SCJP it was only a matter of formalities.

All the best.
And Stay Tuned

Ashish T.

Tony Alicea
sheriff
posted May 08, 2000 06:27 AM             
Congrats, Maha! You got an "A"!

[This message has been edited by Tony Alicea (edited May 08, 2000).]

nirvan sage
greenhorn
posted May 08, 2000 07:54 AM             
Hey congratulations maha thats a great score but I thought you were already certified
Any way I do hope you will stick around

regds
nirvan

Ak
greenhorn
posted May 08, 2000 08:08 AM         
Congratulations Maha Anna
That is really a good score.

Ak

Suma Narayan
ranch hand
posted May 08, 2000 10:36 AM         
Hi Maha,

Did you get any questions on GridBagLayout??

maha anna
bartender
posted May 08, 2000 12:20 PM             
Thank you all. (In the SAME order as you all posted )
Suma Narayan
sree
psethura
satya5
Eric Barnhill
Nalini Mistry
Mani
Ali
raghavendra
Cedric Wynn
sim
Ashish Thakur
Tony Alicea
nirvan sage
Ak

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Mani,
I am a Electronics and Communication Engineer from Anna University Chennai( Madras ) India. I was working as Senior System Analyst in a software firm related to all Communication Software using 'C' language for 4 years. Now our family is in RTP/Raleigh/NorthCorolina/USA. At present I am working on a project using Java/Servlets/jsp/jdbc. I learnt Java through self study and started this process nearly more than a year back. I started learning Java for this project which I mentioned above.

I decided to go for certification this year Jan only. I used Thinking in Java/Java in a Nutshell/Java Language Specification (JLS) / Online Java Doc/ and I used to follow javacert.com regularly where I came to know about Marcus and Kathy

Ok regarding the mock exams I saved them for the last 1 month. After I read R&H and Bill Brogden's book. Then I started taking the mock exams. I started from the easier ones (from others comments I came to know which are easy and which are hard) and I noted down in a text file date/mockexam/% got/where I wentwrong/which area I need to study like that. This really really helped me to gauge myself. I started getting above 88% in the first round. Nearly more than 30 exams I would have taken I think. From this chart I shuffeled the exams and repeated them. In the 2nd round I made it a point I should not repeat the same mistake like that. Even then I did repeat some In the last week , this week I was getting on average 97-98% in all the exams. So I thought better I take the exam before there is any BIG change in the objectives like that I used Khalid test as a learning tool. In Chris alone 1st round I got around 80%

Suma,
I did get 1 qstn on Grid Bag layout.
regds
maha anna

Indy
ranch hand
posted May 08, 2000 02:47 PM             
please excuse me for add one more message to this already-fire-to sky thread.
Just want to say congratulations to maha anna. and thank you very much maha. good luck in your work.

Indy

Sunny
unregistered
posted May 08, 2000 04:13 PM           
Congratulations, Maha Anna. I really admire your good work at this site.

Joe Guzzardo
bartender
posted May 08, 2000 07:15 PM             
Congratulations, we all appreciate the help you have provided us here at the Java Ranch, so its about time you reaped some of the rewards of your efforts. Best wishes to you.

surya
unregistered
posted May 08, 2000 08:29 PM           
Congrats MahaAnna

Javix Protocol
ranch hand
posted May 08, 2000 09:17 PM             
Maha anna

Happy Jlife and Jmoments for u.I wish that u carry ur sincere work in the same way.

Jerson Chua
ranch hand
posted May 08, 2000 10:51 PM             
Congratulations and Best wishes Maha...

eshwar
unregistered
posted May 08, 2000 11:43 PM           
Congrats maha ........
mine is scheduled coming week ......

million cheers
eshwar

vishy
greenhorn
posted May 09, 2000 05:25 AM             
Hearty Congratulations Maha.........

Vishy

Ajith Kallambella
bartender
posted May 09, 2000 06:05 AM             
congratulations big guy!. Way to go!!


Ajith

jvarkha
greenhorn
posted May 09, 2000 07:30 AM         
Congrats to Maha Anna............thats a real good score

jvarkha.

Ray Marsh
bartender
posted May 09, 2000 10:29 AM             
Congrats Maha. That's a great score!

maha anna
bartender
posted May 10, 2000 12:17 PM             
Thank you all really.
Indy
Sunny
Joe Guzzardo
surya
Javix Protocol
Jerson Chua

eshwar
All the very best for your Exam.

vishy
Ajith Kallambella
jvarkha
Ray Marsh

regds
maha anna

Krishannirmal
unregistered
posted May 10, 2000 04:07 PM           
Maha,
Congrats and Very good score. I am reading JavaRanch for about a month and found it very useful and I am planning to take exam next month. Any advice or Suggestions please.?

Thanks & Regards.
/Krishnannirmal

maha anna
bartender
posted May 10, 2000 05:00 PM             
Next month means you have 3 weeks to spare isn't ?

I assume you would have finished all your ground work. One thing I can suggest to you is just try to read all the posts in this forum. Say you take 4-5 days depending upon how much time you can spare. While reading the post, Maha's advice is, when you read a the FIRST POST in a thread, try to answer YOURSELF. Then continue to verify your thinking. This way definitly your confidence will improve.

One good thing about this site is NOT catagorized by objectivewise. If you want mixed-up qstns just read them page by page. Otherwise search for a particular word thread/garbage like that and read. It depends upon your liking.

From this week itself take 1 or 2 exams per day to get used to 'taking the Exam' feeling. This is also important. You shdn't get tensed at the exam. While taking the exam DO NOT refer to anything. And my another sincere suggestion note down in a text file MOckExamName/DateTime/totqstns/yourcorrectansers/% got/your comments/area need to study. What I did was the previous day of the exam I went through all my mistakes in this text file.

While doing this process you know yourself which area to study, what to do next like that.

regds
maha anna

Hari Parthasarathy
greenhorn
posted May 11, 2000 01:09 AM             
Many Congrats Maha !!

Being a Bartender, I wished you got 100%... Anyway, Best wishes from Hari...

Hari..

bidyut
unregistered
posted May 11, 2000 01:50 AM           
Hi
Congrates Maha For Clearing SCJP.
Bidyut

Krishannirmal
unregistered
posted May 11, 2000 07:02 AM           
Maha Anna,
Thank you so much and I got an really good advice and
suggestions. Thanks a lot.

Thanks & Regards.
/Krishannirmal

Aparanji Raju
greenhorn
posted May 13, 2000 06:43 AM             
Wow!Congratulations. I am planning to take SCJP in june first week and I am in jitters.

maha anna
bartender
posted May 13, 2000 08:58 PM             
Maha received the SCJP2 Certificate from Sun today by mail . Last week the same day (Saturday) I wrote the exam. I didn't really expect it so soon.(within a week) May be Sun is speeding up the process. The pack contains the Certificate(without the % ) and a Sun Certified Java Programmer badge, and an agreement to sign up and send back to Sun to use the Logo artwork under some coditions. The badge is small. The certificate looks nice.

regds
maha anna

[This message has been edited by maha anna (edited May 13, 2000).]

Lionel
ranch hand
posted May 16, 2000 04:02 AM             
Dear Maha,
Congrats

I passed the exam too but I dont know why I went really low just 73%. So, I am writing it again. I have benn getting consistenlty above 80% in most of the tests (Marcus, Jxam, JDCert, tester.jar, pgjc-engine.zip and many online sites). Also at the Javaranch I have never got below 88%. But during the exam I took only 45 minutes and could not really read carefully. I am aware of most of the topics. Kindly guide me I want to do it well this time and want to score high. Is it possible to try for a 100?

Regards,
Lionel

maha anna
bartender
posted May 16, 2000 11:28 AM             
Lionel,
We are glad to talk to you. This is not clear for Maha from your post. Did you take only 45 min out of the 2 hrs and came out of the Exam Room ? or you took 1hr :15 min for the first round and 45 min to revise ? Please reply. And some more input from your end regarding how you took the exam, in the sense were you tensed? or you didn't concentrate or you took it so lightly or you didn't look at the clock or you found the exam harder something like that. Beleive Maha I am not at all doubting your scores in the mocks? But this thing bothers Maha. Did you get 88% in the Rules roundup game in Javaranch? I think this game is pretty fundamentals, very simple and straight forward 1 or 2 line qstns. You should have got 100% ,if not atleast 96-98%. This is in my humble opinion. There are few qstns in this game which had to be re-worded and people brought into attention and they are in MOck exam errata forum and Paul also had changed them. Plese give us some more input from your end.

Because I think I have to be careful while answering your qstn. I should not take anything for granted and should not answer making some assumptions and each person is different.It is very sensitive and I think I need to know some more info from your end before I help you. After your post I ask all our SCJPS and all out near future SCJPS to give a hand for you. Cheer up.

FYI I know a person who failed in this exam first time and is a professional employee before the Exam and re took the exam and now the person is in a very very good postion . THis info is very much true info and I am giving this info to you to cheer you up and to give you an example of the practical world and the % in the exam and the special preparation we need to get good % in the exam . Please do not ask me who is that person. This person is not posted even a single message in this forum and I think I shdn't peek too much into other's business. And I am saying this just to cheer you up.

regds
maha anna

[This message has been edited by maha anna (edited May 16, 2000).]

psethura
ranch hand
posted May 16, 2000 12:55 PM         
Always take advice/suggestions from Anna University guys/gals.

psethura
ranch hand
posted May 16, 2000 12:57 PM         
Always take advice/suggestions from Anna University guys/gals.

Edward Man
greenhorn
posted May 16, 2000 06:46 PM             
Lionel,

I think Sun has changed a lot of the questions now. There were some kind of questions I have not seen in mock exams. I admit I only use Marcus' Mock Exam, a little bit of Jxam, and a little bit of Bill Brodgen's. I haven't have time to look at other Mock Exams.

Also under an exam condition, I got stress as well; otherwise I might get a few more marks (to be just in par with Maha).

SCJP should be your first step towards Java certification. If you intend to take either SCJD/SCJA or both, there is not much point in resitting the test, unless you just want SCJP.

After you got SCJD/SCJA, who is going to ask you how much mark you got for SCJP? Employers know you already have excellent Java skills.

This is just my thought.

Edward

ndbabu
unregistered
posted May 16, 2000 11:35 PM           
Congratulations!!!!

Javix Protocol
ranch hand
posted May 17, 2000 01:20 AM             
CONGRAGULATIONS!!!!!!!!!

Suresh Rayappa
unregistered
posted May 17, 2000 11:10 PM           

Congratulations Maha!! I happened to visit this site after a long time ( I got certified in March and after that I have never visited) and found this thread. I am glad that I came across this thread, for congratulating you!! I was wondering when you will take the exam and was expecting you would get a very high score like Tony, but 93% is still a very good score. Good luck and thanks for your patient and elaborate explainations.

Lionel
ranch hand
posted May 20, 2000 03:29 AM             
Hi there, this Lionel again. You are right Maha, I took only 45 minutes in the exam. I just could not concentrate because I started out thinking it's tough.

But thinking back I feel it's easy.

I dont go by any question paper released lately in the market that has been given as a mock, though I have practised and tried a lot of them and have literally hunted the net for more questions for the pleasure of learning.

Rather I believe in concepts and practical usage of each topic in the certification. I had practically tried almost a lot of programs on the certification with simple programs to support a certain kind of statement an author states. And I had learnt a lot by the experience.

The Ranch exams are ok. I score a minimum of 88% to a maximum of 97% in it at any given point of time without any preparation. Maybe its that I am not tensed at the time I take ranch or other mock tests (and I feel its just a program that has to be set right).

But it makes me sad to have got just a 73% when I could have got the 90's and I know that i can do it. I am not boasting.No one at office believes that I got just a small score I have kept this as a secret form my Project Manager too, because he expects that I score nothing lesser than 80's.

I am confused. I cant accept my poor performance, and further more if I have to take SCJD or architecture I will take time to learn and I have to live with this score till then. I am thinking of taking it again. Maybe you can send me some files just to test the validity of the sentences I said. To make matters worse I am in the interview panel of my company and I must be a jcp. If I tell this out, I got to face the shame or the pity of people who dont understand. And if I don't - I got to write it again. And this time I want to try for the big one ( the one and only 100) and prove it to myself that i can.

[This message has been edited by Lionel (edited May 20, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by Lionel (edited May 23, 2000).]

maha anna
bartender
posted May 25, 2000 08:12 AM             
Lionel,
Very very sorry for the delayed reply. This is Maha's 2nd post after a week. Now I understand where you come from. If I would have done like you (got up in 45 min) I am sure I would have failed, especially if I think other things behind my mind, what if something happens before the exam, what others will think of if I don't do well, why should I do this, like that. 45 min/with thinking the exam is tough and got 73% means I am sure you are capable of doing what you think you can do. Really. One more thing I got from Maha's life experiance as a professional and as a family women is , find out who you are, not to compare with others, we can compare sometimes but not to discourage ourself, I am not the only one I think what am I now, may be I didn't know of others in the whole world who are sailing in th same boat like that.. As a professional, we shd not put off by our emotional.Our intelligence doesn't play its role when emotion takes control over. Exactly pin-point what is your weekness. Think positively. The key here is when we know things, if something else stops us from showing it, we are the only one who exactly can pin-point the cause and beat to the ground. So these are the things we have to bear with if you want to achieve the 100%. You have to do the special prep which is needed for the exam point of view. I know apart from all that only experience specks in real life and the cert definitly improves out knowledge. Some people know the funda, but careless in applying that like myself I lost one qstn in operators and assignments. One more thing I think of useful here is , utilize the full 2 hrs. If you think logically, We are doing so much.... hard work for this 2 hrs only. Then its not wise , not to utilize them, especially if you aim for some good %. right? Who is going to bother if you used 2 hrs or 45 min. Only the score matters.So this is the key. Do the hard part. Try to practice to concentrate. Even if you loose concentration, try to get back to normal within 1 or 2 min. If you find a hard qstn, try to spend lesser time on that, because in the meanwhile if you think you are wasting time, some thing like that, definitly it is going to affect your concentration on the next qstn even if it is easy. So try to do more rounds of revising. Like you have to draw a line bet how you divide the whole 2 hrs, 1st round/2nd round/3rd round. I changed 2 qstns in the 2nd round of revising. Reason... marked the wrong answer, while thinking the other one is correct. If I would not have revised the 2nd time I would have lost 2 qstns while will reduce 4% on the total of what we get, easily. Also note that this exam is for 59 qstns, not 100 qstns. So we get points easily as well as loose also. If you gain a qstn you get appro. 2%, at the same time if you loose 1 we loose 2%. So bear this also in mind. One more thing to speed up ansering is use [i]process of elimination[i]. If an answer is wrong for a valid reason, just eliminate that and go for next ans, like that. I suggest if money is not prob. and you want really high score, if score is important for your profession, if you want to do it yourself, go for it 2nd time. Now do it wisely knowing what you did wrong in the first time. Definitly now you will have better experiance since you have already had the real exam experience once. you WILL GET THE BEST. I am glad you talked to us frankly.All these are from Maha's opinion. IF any other thing you want to ask ,you are welcome. I am always ready to hear and try to help.

regds
maha anna

[This message has been edited by maha anna (edited May 25, 2000).]

deneb shah
greenhorn
posted May 27, 2000 01:07 AM             
Hi Maha

Congrats Maha...
Maha - the "Queen" of Java -

so maha whats ur future plans...

before i forget.. maha could you just mention the different exams u took and their order of difficulty.. i think u r a genius so people are going to follow your steps..

this would guide the SCJP takers .. so that they could take their tests in the correct order...

Congrats MAHA once again... and
hey
when is the treat

Party time at the Ranch....

GoodLuck

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denice the menace

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